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[Weapon] Concept about attachements

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After some times of brainstorming I write here some ideas, how to balance attachments and make every gun something unique. These ideas are bold enough and maybe, you guys, will crucify me for that=)

 

1) So these parameters should be constant and depends only on the gun and unchangeble by attachments.
Damage - it depends most on muzzle energy and ammo caliber. Make this unique.
Rate of Fire - depends on gas engine of the gun. Make this unique.
Recoil Pattern - it depends most on muzzle energy and ammo caliber (bullet weight) as well as design features of the gun. Make this unique.

 

 

2) Barrel attachment.
Lenght of barrel should affect Spread, Weight,  ADS Time and Damage Drop.
Standart barrel has these parameters by default.
Long (LMG) barrel.
Better: Spread, Damage Drop. 
Worse: Weight, ADS Time, Equip Time.
Short (Carbine) barrel.
Better:  Weight, ADS Time, Equip Time.
Worse: Spread, Damage Drop.

 

 

3) Foregrip attachement.

Foregrips are ergonomic attachements and should affect Sway, Recoil Decrease (how fast aim point goes back, after soldier stops shooing), After Sprint Aiming, ADS Speed, ADS vibration in movement,  (make them "better" in cost of some weight). Different type of foregrips should give different combinations of ergonomic bonuces

Bipods should drastically decrease Sway and Recoil when proning (or if there will be deploying, like in BF).

One more about hybrid Foregrips/Bipods (RGL) They should be sligtly worse than a foregrip and bipods and have some transformation time.

 


4) Muzzle attachements.

In one hand, adding difference parameters (in 0.7 patch) for muzzle attachements will create more combinations. In other hand , muzzle attachments for different guns are frequently not compatible for each other. So, I'd prefer to see not such large quantity of muzzle attachments overall, but compatible for each gun.  For example, only 7.62 mm muzzle attachments can be used with AK-15.


Muzzle Brake (standart option for many guns)
Standart Vertical Recoil and Horizontal Recoil. Standart muzzle flash and sound
Flash hider.
Better: decreases muzzle flash
Worse: Recoil a little
Supressor.
Better: hide muzzle flash and decreases sound.
Worse: Recoil a lot.

 

Special Thanks for HeiligeRobbe for the idea of sway-decreasing foregrips=)
UPD: 21.11.19. Remade the suggestion.

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I will just link my old suggestion here: 

Your's is obviously far more fletched out. Regarding the suppressor I would argue against a reduction of bullet speed and increase in bullet drop though, because that's not what suppressors do as far as I understand. In reality they increase muzzle velocity (for supersonic ammo), eliminate muzzle flaah and decrease recoil.

To balance this out ingame, they could have an unrealistically high weight and probably increase ADS time because of the added barrel length. Although, I find the sway too pronounced at the moment I find it also kind of plausible that suppressors increase the sway due to the altered weapon balance.

 

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8 hours ago, †FeuerEuphorie† said:

Supressors should supress sounds and muzzle flash, but make recoil bigger with addition of drastically decreasing Bullet Speed and increasing Bullet drop.

Except suppressors in real life increase Bullet Speed due to the barrel being slightly longer and a suppressor is designed to use the escaping gasses to push the bullet "again"
(speed increase most noticeable on handguns which gives about a 1-3% increase) 

Recoil would actually decrease on handguns, because of the weight added to the front of the gun. So the bullet goes faster and faster bullets don't drop quicker than slower ones.

Check out this video on suppressors 

 

So technically and realistically, using a suppressor should even add just a little bit more damage and bullet speed

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7 минут назад, Matt_dOvale сказал:

Except suppressors in real life increase Bullet Speed due to the barrel being slightly longer and a suppressor is designed to use the escaping gasses to push the bullet "again"

I agree with one exception. In real life suppressors are most effective with subsonic bullets.

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31.08.2019 в 17:01, HeiligeRobbe сказал:

In reality they increase muzzle velocity (for supersonic ammo), eliminate muzzle flaah and decrease recoil.

Compared to "naked" barrel, decreasing of recoil is true. But compared to gun with big muzzle brake such as AK-15, changing muzzle brake to suppressor will increase recoil.

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