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We need simple Vote Kick option in menu in game play  some people trolling in game killing team .

-you should only be able to vote kick your own teammate. Each team deals with their own trolls

 

this need be addressed to game fast as possible some people destroying game play killing team .

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This is far too easy to abuse, especially in a game where People tend to run with their Clans/Friends. While I agree TKers really suck the fun out of the game, the problem with IDing them is that there are three types of TKers. The intentional TKer, the Accidental TKer, and Newb TKer.

Newb TKers, while annoying, are just new players that -just- got the game and are learning their way around. They don't have the experience to know that they cannot push Infantry with Vehicles without hurting them, that the guy running towards them with a sliver of blue on them is just a very injured teammate, that calling in Bombing runs directly on top of their allies will wipe out a large sum of their team most likely, and etc.

Accidental TKers are self explained. Shit happens in the game, sometimes a Ally is standing too close to some landmines when a enemy Vehicle drives over them, sometimes we startle TK someone (aka we had someone suddenly appear, their Friendly I.D didn't pop up, and we fragged them because we thought they were a hostile that ran up/spawned in or whatever close to us), sometimes we call in Artillery strikes and some Crayola Connoisseur chooses to run into our Artillery strikes (these are usually New Players), sometimes we get an absolute Waterhead on our team who thinks standing right up against the rear of a Vehicle is a good idea when the Vehicle is under intense fire, and myriad of other situations where TKing wasn't actually intentional.

Then of course we have the Intentional TKers, the People that want to ruin the enjoyment of everyone else in some shape or form. Sometimes they outright TK you, sometimes they damage you enough to let the enemy get a easy kill on you, sometimes they destroy your Vehicle you called in, sometimes they throw C4 on your Vehicle so you take extra damage from explosive attacks there, and etc.

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whats about few more conditions to get votekicked? Like score <300 and/or 4-5 TKs in round?

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3 hours ago, Dunabar said:

This is far too easy to abuse, especially in a game where People tend to run with their Clans/Friends. 

In bf4 groups of friends would vote kick and vote ban people just because they didn't like them or how they played via dominating the vote.

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1 hour ago, NeoOrNeon said:

In bf4 groups of friends would vote kick and vote ban people just because they didn't like them or how they played via dominating the vote.

Yup same with Rainbow Six Siege. On average players cannot be trusted with this level of power, too many ways to abuse it, too many ways for Waterheads to get their jollies off on someone being abused. I will say though, that I'm a strong supporter for After Match Replays, this way excessive TKers can be reported by everyone, and not just People like me who have a means to record gameplay.

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The bottom line is a player can tk as much as they want with no consequence.

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How about if someone gets say 3 TKs in a minute or 5 total TKs then a server vote kick pops up. Seems like it'd be a fairly good system that would work and would be difficult to abuse 

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21 hours ago, Zvolteh said:

How about if someone gets say 3 TKs in a minute or 5 total TKs then a server vote kick pops up. Seems like it'd be a fairly good system that would work and would be difficult to abuse 

5 Total TKs for the automatic vote will just encourage a Troll to isolate one player and do everything in their power to get TKed by that player. Always getting in front of them when they're shooting, standing on their grenades, and etc. This isn't even counting the myriad of general pure accidents that can happen when the TKing Player wasn't actually trying to TK.

The 3 TKs in a minute is a bit more viable, but I can see a lone troll pulling that off in the right situation. A small dedicated group of trolls could do it especially against Vehicle drivers, running into player's Artillery & Bombing run strikes, running into Player's Phosphorus grenades whenever they are added, and etc. This is also not counting, once again, the myriad of general pure accidents that can happen.

So, my suggestion would be to do the following.

  1. Keep the current TK Punishment System
  2. Add a after match Replay System so Players can rewatch the match to report excessive trolling, TKing, and etc etc to the Developers

Let the Developers handle it from there as they would be a true neutral party in this situation.

If they want to do something a little more elaborate, then create a sort of Seasonal Behavior System where Trolls, excessive TKers, and the likes actually punish themselves with their own actions using a mixture of Match based & Seasonal based Punishments. At the same time create a report process for players to challenge their punishments if they think they were unjustly punished. Everyone would ideally be able to watch the replay of their match, so they can always forward the replay to the Devs to review the situation where the punishment was generated at. As for what the punishments can be, they can be things like...

  • Unable to join a match for X amount time after Y number of things happen
  • Weapons become unusable for a period of time
  • Whole loadouts get locked from being used for a period of time
  • Loss of weapons so they have to be repurchased
  • Loss of in-game money
  • Loss of Rank
  • Loss of Experience generated during a match
  • Loss of in-game money generated during a match

Or whatever the Devs deem a fitting punishment to punish excessive TKing & Trolling.

By removing as many exploitable paths as possible, the actual problematic players can ruin the game for themselves long term, and thus they need to change their own behavior long term to rid themselves of the various punishments they brought on themselves.

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